Which agency do you think said this quote? There was a brief discussion from the participants, with some speculating it was the AFP who said that because they are the law enforcement agency that is most likely present in conflict areas. Another participant guessed that it was the PNP, because those who are detained are being turned over from the AFP to the PNP. So meron tayong institutions because of the context of armed conflict and the mandate of arresting, we have identified the security sector. So klaro talaga. Pero ano sa tingin nyo yung sablay sa quotation? Ano yung hindi comfortable? “Yung wala talagang VAWC” “Yung wala talagang intensyon na mahawakan yung suso” Prof. Rallonza then revealed that it was actually an officer from the CHR-Eastern Samar who said the problematic quote: Ang nagsabi po nito ay CHR-Eastern Samar, during my fieldwork. May 2013. So imagine my horror nung narinig ko to. Kasi kahit sinabi natin ang CHR naglabas ng guildelines ng 2015 ng Gender Ombud at Magna Carta ng 2009, pero yung pagtatalaga sa CHR ng pagiging Gender Ombud was in the point in time that the Magna Carta [was already in place]. It was actually a man who was explaining this. “Wala talagang record ng VAWC” - maybe it's time you review your records. But you have to understand that when you are talking about VAWC, it is different when you are talking about VAWC in context of armed conflict. And it is the armed conflict that triggers this violence. Page 11​ of 62